What are we to make of the scenes of mayhem on the streets of London over the past few nights? People are watching their television screens in unbelief as hundreds of young people have turned our nations capital into a battlefield. What sort of young people go out and destroy property, loot goods from shops and attack the police?
It would seem there is a generation growing up in our nation who have no respect for any form of authority whether it’s teachers, the police or even their own parents. The Bible describes such a generation in the book of Proverbs.
‘11There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother. 12There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness. 13There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.’
Last night I watched ‘Newsnight’ on BBC 2 and the programme spent most of the time discussing the on-folding situation in London and indeed other British cities where ‘copy-cat’ riots are now taking place. They had a panel of ‘experts’ on to discuss the riots including former London Mayor Ken Livingstone, a Police representative, a former Tory parliamentary candidate and a Minister from a Church in Tottenham North London where the riots began.
As the debate went on I couldn’t help feeling disappointed that no one really understood why this was happening. The closest anyone came to putting their finger on the problem was the former Tory candidate who touched on the breakdown of the family unit. Others were suggesting it was to do with government cuts and the economic climate.
While economics may be a trigger factor in causing this kind of behaviour there is something deeper at the heart of the issue. There is something wrong at a spiritual level within people that causes them to act in this way. I was particularly disappointed in the Churchman on the programme as his contribution focused entirely on social issues and a biblical response to the issue was not even mentioned by him.
We have to ask the question, why are young people acting in such a lawless and immoral way? Destruction of property, stealing from shops and fighting with figures of authority, all of these things fly in the face if Biblical standards which is in essence where good law and morality comes from. Why do these young people act like this? Can I suggest the following.
Atheist Anarchy
We must never forget that belief effects behaviour. If you don’t believe there is a God who will one day judge you then you’re not going to be too concerned about Biblical morality. These kids have had a diet of evolutionary propaganda feed to them through the education system and the media! Not a bit of wonder they are law-less as they don’t believe in an ultimate standard of authority, instead we have atheist anarchy.
Discipline Deficit
A huge problem in our society today is a lack of discipline. The principle of discipline is a Biblical principle. God is a God of justice and judgement. Even in the family situation Proverbs encourages corporal punishment in the home situation. Sadly our modern British society no longer practices these Biblical principles. Smacking is outlawed in the school and frowned upon in the home. Criminals in our so-called justice system are given ‘slaps on the wrist’ rather than meaningful sentences that befit their crime. Criminals no longer fear the judicial system, there is a discipline deficit.
Family Failure
Successive governments in the United Kingdom have presided over the breakdown of the family unit. The family is the building block of a strong society. The ideal family is brought before us in the book of Genesis where God brought together one man and one woman Adam and Eve, mind you it wasn’t Adam and Steve. However, the British government has done nothing to support the family structure as God sees it but they support the dysfunctional and perverted family structures of 21st Century society, with your taxes and with mine. I dare say many of the kids out wrecking the streets of London over the past few nights know very little of a father figure in the home someone to bring a bit of discipline and influence to bear in their formative years. Sadly Britain is reaping the harvest of family failure.
The Answer
So what’s the answer to our nations problem? One word, Revival! Our nation needs a widespread spiritual awakening. We need people once again to respect the Word of God and the Standards of God. However, in order for this to happen they need to have a heart for God. This will only be achieved through the new birth. We need to see masses of people in our land being born again of the Spirit of God. Only God can achieve this miracle. Pray that God on His mercy will be pleased to pour out His Spirit in our day and in our generation, we desperately need it.
‘O LORD, I have heard thy speech, and was afraid: O LORD, revive thy work in the midst of the years, in the midst of the years make known; in wrath remember mercy.’ Habakkuk 3 v2
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A good analysis, Maurice.
ReplyDeleteWe are rightly incensed by the violence and destruction - but we need to ask ourselves if there are more to blame than the young louts.
Their parents and the whole of governing society surely have a big share of the blame. It was them, not the kids, who taught that generation there was no God, that we are the products of Darwinian struggle. So when some behave as predators, why the surprise?
It was also the adult generation that made light of the Family, and most of the kids in the troubled areas are raised without their Dad.
That's two big factors influencing the minds of today's youth. There are more: the lust for possessions, as exemplified by the rich and powerful who have bankrupted our nation. Greed is good for the elite, so why not for the poor?
Our society is reaping the moral corruption it has sown.
However, the gospel of Christ was made for sinners like them and us! As you say, it is THE answer.
Maurice, whilst I agree with what you are saying in a general sense and that the underlying problem is always that of sin, everyone seems to be completely missing the point about what the SPECIFIC issue in London is.
ReplyDeleteNot every poor, financially disadvantaged youth, or person from a broken family, or every unbeliever is rioting. The issue in London is first and foremost an immigration and multi-cultural problem.
You state that, "no-one seems to know why these things are happening." I believe that there are many who know exactly why these things are happening but they are reluctant to speak the truth about this very pressing issue.
The fact is that not all unbelievers are involved in such riotous behaviour. The main groups, a very high percentage of the time, are coloured immigrants who have no sense of belonging to the UK and who do not want to integrate into life in the UK.
One major concern is that there appears to be a massive amount of well meaning Christians who have a dangerous lack of understanding as per the spiritual and the social aspects of these problems and where the overlaps lie.
As this problem increases, many whites may turn violently and suddenly against these immigrants ... and guess who is going to get the blame? Yes, that's right, the entire white race, including people like me (for daring to speak about such things) who have NEVER INCITED any acts of violence, never encouraged or supported harmful measures, or ever engaged in illegality of ANY kind. People like me who have warned about these problems for years but were told that our views were irrelevant, and that we had no place in society.
I have recently watched media reports, as I’m sure everyone has, about one man who carried out a horrible crime in Norway - which I in no way condone; it was horrific. However, what I also found horrific was the media’s blatant attempts to brand the white race using this individual. I think it was the Daily Telegraph who began their headline with “Blonde Gunman…..” What did the colour of his hair, skin, eyes have to do with anything? I rest my case. It is very interesting that I haven’t heard one report or read one headline yet which majors on the colour of the skin of the overwhelming majority of those involved in these riots.
I don't see immigration the problem in these riots, Peter. It certainly is a dangerous problem, but not the issue here.
ReplyDeleteMany of the rioters/looters were white English. The factor I believe they share with their black comrades is their amoral upbringing. This article by Max Hastings puts it well:
'Years of liberal dogma have spawned a generation of amoral, uneducated, welfare dependent, brutalised youngsters'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2024284/UK-riots-2011-Liberal-dogma-spawned-generation-brutalised-youths.html#comments
Wolfsbane,
ReplyDeleteI am well aware that there were many white people involved in the riots. As usual, the media endeavoured to use footage which ensured there were white people included; their big problem this time was finding enough of such footage as it was perfectly clear that the overwhelming majority were black. Furthermore, you will find that these whites who were involved will be fluffy, liberal leftists, and their offspring, who have believed the governments' lies over the years.
Hastings' quote deals with the leftists' lies but then he makes a poor, generalised statement which covers up the specific problem in THIS case, which IS immigration.
I would plead with you not to be deluded although it is understandable why many are deluded given the brainwashing over time and the media's bias for many years.
Ok, I'm open to persuasion that it was essentially blacks rioting. Have you any proof? Or are you interpreting the same evidence I see to give that conclusion?
ReplyDeleteGiven that the spark was the killing of a black man(a gangster) by the police, it is not unexpected that black youths from the working class areas would be a big component of the initial riots.
As it developed, it seems to me white youths of the same disaffected and amoral outlook came on board gladly. Add to the the ideological rioters (mainly white?) and you have a yob riot egged on by the anarchists and other revolutionaries. Hardly a racist thing.
Do you think white NEETS were not as involved as black ones?
Anyway, I'll be glad to hear your case for it being race-riots.
Having major difficulty posting to this thread; hope the last one has made it.
ReplyDeleteIt hasn't; I'll try again tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteStill no joy posting my comment so I'll try to do it in 2 parts now.
ReplyDeleteWolfsbane,
ReplyDeleteI think anarchists would have regarded these riots as fairly insignificant to their cause; I doubt that real anarchists were involved but suppose it depends on your definition of the word. I'll assume that your use of the word was in a generic sense.
As regards involvement, I have already stated in a previous post that there were some whites involved.
Are you really looking for what you term as "proof" that it was essentially blacks who were rioting? Even if you are only reading / listening to mainstream media, you already have proof. Even THEY are reporting using terms such as, "minority youths who have been at the forefront of the unrest. The term "predominantly black," has been used on countless occasions too. However, they shroud these terms in ambiguous language and statements or they tag them on at the end of lengthy paragraphs, fluffed up with irrelevant comments about the economy and social housing etc. Photographs are almost always generically captioned, however, their clever photographic techniques (which I have experienced first hand on occasions so I'm not making this up) couldn't work this time due to the numbers of blacks involved. If you can't deduce this for yourself, even from the mainstream, which I would have thought you would be able to see through, then you may be beyond convincing as you are likely to disregard any other form of reporting. The fact is, no-one even needs any other form of reporting in this instance; it is perfectly clear. Read the articles a little closer if you're still in doubt, or broaden your media scope.
You talk about the rioters as if they are "bound" to be predominantly from the black community since it was a black man that was shot by police, but the fact is that he was shot by police because, according to the police, he pointed a fire arm straight at them. Furthermore, the reason why the police actually stop and search more blacks than whites in the first place, even though they are a minority, is because they are the majority in relation to crime. And yes, there is evidence for this too; study the crime statistics by area and cross refer them with the Home Office census. Here's a very recent article to get you started:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7856404/Police-statistics-shed-fresh-light-on-link-between-crime-and-race.html
Blacks display an inclination to this sort of behaviour in much larger percentages by race (official police records per British Constabulary prove this). There is no point blaming blaming poverty for what has happened - blacks are proportionately much less likely to be employed, and this is not all due to poor backgrounds. There is no point blaming poor schooling - because whites face the same school system as blacks.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that some people find all this unpalatable does not change the facts of the matter.
There is ample information, sources and studies that could be noted here but this is a blog commentary thread and I must respect it as such in the length of my comments; indeed, this comment is already too long for such a thread and I must apologise to Maurice.
Unfortunately, due to the state of our nation, decades of brainwashing, liberal mind-numbing and unjust "branding" of anyone who dares speak such things as I have mentioned above, I now believe I need to state that no part of my comment has been offered in any form of hatred. Anyone who knows me would appreciate this already but you and other readers may not know me. Therefore, I stress this point.
I hope you will genuinely and honestly study the matters thoroughly for yourself - a few newspaper headlines do not qualify, for any of us.
Peter
ReplyDeleteI accept your comments as a sincere analysis of the situation, not as racial slur or from any other unworthy motive.
I just wonder if black immigrants are the problem. If there had been no immigration, but the same godless indoctrination of generations of our native children, do you think we would not have come to this? Maybe a bit later, but inevitably?
That is, are feral black youths the problem, and not feral youths of whatever colour?
This is certainly a large well of disaffected black youth out there. But I fear we delude ourselves that they are the problem. We need to face up to the corruption of all youth that our leaders have encouraged over several generations.
The article you linked to reveals the level of moral corruption in the black community that manifests in robbery. The social conditions - absent fathers, and the spiral of ill-discipline and hedonistic motivation that flows from that - are well-rooted in the black community. But the white community is fast catching up.
Viewing the riots as an immigration problem prevents us seeing the reality: the moral problem.
Wolfsbane,
ReplyDeleteI have already commented more than once on the whites involved.
I have certainly not ignored the corruption of all youth by our leaders; indeed, I have already commented heavily on government and media guilt in this regard and their propaganda over countless years.
I do not view immigration as our only problem. In my very first comment on this thread you will see that I agreed with Maurice that the underlying problem is sin. My point was that immigration is a specific and had a massive bearing on the events of last week, yet no-one seemed prepared to even mention it. It is when we fail to recognise THIS that we are deluded.
I am fully aware of the contents of the article which I linked to; it deals with a specific aspect and that is why I stated that it was "to get you started." I did not intend the link to be viewed as addressing all of the issues; I think my comments throughout this thread make that clear.
I have not missed the moral problem at all; I'm very aware of it.
Thanks for your responses; it appears that you remain unconvinced so we'll leave it at that and look forward to Maurice's next post.